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Post by Jeff Probst on Nov 24, 2020 18:36:27 GMT -5
FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL
Welcome to the Final Tribal Council. We'll bring in the Jury. Brandon, Ethan, Clarence, Lex, Teresa, Kelly & Kim P, voted out at the last Tribal Council.
Jessie and Kim J, you have gone as far as you can go in this game. The power now shifts over to the Jury. 7 people you had a hand in voting out, now hold your fate in their hands.
Here's how it is going to work. The Jury members are going to have a chance to speak to you. They can make a statement, ask a question or do both. They are gathering information to help inform their decision as they vote for the Winner of Survivor Africa.
Jurors: Post your statements and questions below. Over the next 24 hours, The Final 2 will answer them.
You may ask them more than one question (Try to keep it to a limit of 3 TOTAL, not 3 each). You can also ask them specific questions that apply to them and not the other finalist. Make sure you specify who should answer which questions.
You are NOT permitted to privately message the Final 2 in the Hangout. All correspondence will take place here.
NOTE: There is no follow up questions. The Juror will ask their question or questions, the Final 2 will respond and that is it.
Final 2: Please do separate posts every time you answer a Juror's question. Also please specify which Juror you are responding to. Once every Juror has posted a question and they have all been answered, you will get a chance to make one final statement.
Jurors can submit your vote at any time. You are NOT permitted to change your vote once it has been cast so I recommend waiting until after the final statements have been posted.
You will send your vote in the forum messages under the title "Jury Vote"
Votes are due by 6PM tomorrow (Thurs. Nov. 26).
GOOD LUCK FINALISTS! |
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Post by Ethan Zohn on Nov 25, 2020 17:16:35 GMT -5
Congratulations to the both of you. I'm so glad that the final two are both Boran! I'm coming into this final tribal council pretty heartbroken. This was my first Survivor and I was extremely anxious, I didn't think I had the social abilities to be able to create the bonds that I did, I genuinely fell in love with each and every Boran member and everyone had me fooled and hurt me bad. I never intended to backstab anyone on Boran, when I give my word to someone I never break that word. And I'm especially hurt by you, Jessie. I have three questions, my question for Jessie is, was our relationship genuine or were you playing me the entire time? For Kim, what was your biggest move in the game? And for both of you, what genuine qualities do you have that I don't possess, that has you sitting in the final two and has me sitting on the jury?
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Post by Kelly Goldsmith on Nov 25, 2020 17:31:13 GMT -5
Congratulations on making it this far ladies, you both deserve to be here and played a fantastic game. It was so much fun playing with both of you. That being said, I of course am wondering why one of you didn't think to take me to the end as it's no surprise I sucked at challenges lol. So for my question I would like you to answer that - was it because you two formed an alliance and just stuck with it? I would also like to know what each of you think you did right to make it to the final two. Was it a big move? Was it your social game? Winning challenges?
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Post by Lex Van Den Berghe on Nov 25, 2020 17:57:04 GMT -5
If a hyena came through camp...and he ate our mush...and then after he ate it if he turned around and... JUST KIDDING Tom is long gone, we don't need that nonsense here.
Congratulations, Jessie and Kim J! You both played an incredible game, and I'm so grateful that I got the chance to play with you both. I didn't think I would connect with people so much playing this game, but I genuinely feel like I made new friends in both of you, so thank you.
Now, on to the questions:
Jessie: We talked a lot about how we were each other's number one, it was us til the end, etc. and you showed that in your actions during my last tribal when I was on the chopping block. I meant what I said and genuinely had your back, but I'm curious whether there was ever a time when you betrayed me or threw me under the bus in order to advance in the game?
Kim J: I really loved getting to know you and playing the game with you and the rest of the Black Widow Brigade. Throughout the game, however, it felt like you often came to Jessie and I for "instructions" on how to vote and strategy for the week. Was that a strategic move to fly under the radar and not ruffle any feathers, or were you not confident in your ability to take the lead?
Both: Last question is for you both! Sometimes in a game like this, you can look back and think "I wish I had done x instead of z", especially if you don't end up winning. What would you say is your biggest regret or misstep in the game, and what do you wish you had done instead?
Good luck! Can't wait to see who wins and to chat with you after the game, you absolute LEGENDS.
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Post by Jessie Camacho on Nov 25, 2020 21:24:05 GMT -5
Ethan đ„șđ !!!!!
I will start off by saying I assure you that our relationship was genuine and I enjoyed getting to know you and playing alongside you! Voting you out was one of the hardest votes I had to make in this game. I hope you can forgive me in the spirit of Survivor.
I think a strong genuine quality I had throughout this game was adaptability. I found myself in a lot of different situations, with different groups of people and different plays on the table. I allowed myself to genuinely adapt to the game as it progressed and I feel that is one of the reasons I am sitting here tonight.
I want to congratulate you on making it to the jury and I hope you know that IS an accomplishment!! I do feel the jury speaks for itself by our numbers but I always was and still am #BoranStrong. Fun fact: that is the first thing Kim and I said to each other when we became the final two.
Wishing you all the best and look forward to touching base tomorrow.
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Post by Kim Johnson on Nov 25, 2020 22:20:35 GMT -5
Hey Ethan! Iâm really sorry with how the game turned out and that you were hurt by the actions we took. I loved being on Boran and working with everyone on it. I did feel that you and I hadnât created as strong of a bond â despite staying together those 6 extra days during the tribe swap â so there was always part of me that worried you would turn on us. Obviously, that wasnât the case in the end, but at the time I was paranoid and didn't feel I could fully trust you. I tried to really get to know the people I was playing with. I asked about their lives, I told them about mine and I shared pictures of my dog, which I think made me appear softer and let people get to know me without revealing who I was. I avoided talking strategy too early in the game, I kept it light to build relationships and gain trust. Also, you unfortunately had to work a lot in the first two weeks of the game, which is honestly when a lot of relationships started to form so that definitely gave you a tougher start. But I did enjoy playing with you, that was genuine, and making it to the jury is a big deal on its own!
As for my biggest move in the game, it was sticking to the plan of getting Lex out. The final 6 vote was the tough one. I made myself feel sick playing that spinning pinwheel game for so many hours and managed to beat Lex which was the goal, but Jessie beat me and won immunity. Jessie and I had planned on this being the moment to get him out â which was why we went so hard in the challenge that week. I had Kelly on board, but Jessie was wavering at the last minute and Lex managed to pull two votes his way. I didnât fall for the last minute vote change to save Lex and stuck with my gut. I knew that was an opportunity that Lex was vulnerable and we had to take it. The fact that he was making Jessie second guess the plan demonstrated that he had a very strong social game. Of course he almost didnât let that happen but thank god Kelly is good at African trivia! And winning the final 5 immunity and final challenge was of course a huge move as well because I earned my seat in the finals, I didnât need to have someone take me with them to the end. Thanks for the questions!!
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Post by Kim Johnson on Nov 25, 2020 22:26:16 GMT -5
Hey Kelly! Well, I definitely considered taking you to the end. When I made our âBoran to the Endâ group I wasnât completely making that up. But then Jessie won that final 4 immunity, and our plan was to go to the finals together no matter what (we did have a final 2 alliance), so it really could have gone either way between you or Kim. At that point Kim felt like less of a threat, so she stayed in. Iâm sorry thatâs the way it went.
I think Iâm in the final 2 because of a solid combination of those 3 things (Big moves, challenges, social game):
The biggest move was getting rid of Lex when we did, which you ended up playing a big role on with that tie breaker (thank you!!), which was definitely a game changing move and was the exact time to get that done. The timing for that was calculated â after Clarence and before numbers were so small that we wouldnât have another chance.
I won challenges when I needed to win them (I won 2 out of the final 4 challenges, including the very important final immunity to bring me to this position, and I didnât win the final 6 challenge but I did beat Lex which was part of the goal), and I really didnât want to win too many challenges too soon â we saw what that did to Clarence and Lex.
I do think I had a strong social game as well â I was quietly strategic because I didnât want to come across as too intense. I wanted people to feel like the person we were voting for was their idea, even though I sometimes led the conversation to them suggesting it. And I was likeable enough to be sitting here in the final 2 with ZERO votes cast against me along the way.
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Post by Brandon Quinton on Nov 25, 2020 23:29:12 GMT -5
Well well well...look who we have sitting here. We currently have someone that I am disgusted with and someone that's an angel. At least, that's what I think right now and knowing me those feelings can change in a heartbeat. And don't think you know who is who because odds are you're wrong. Any who, in my history of these games, I am known for my evil jury statements and destroying lives. Yes, I have played before and yes I have been beaten, slapped, choked...wait, that's a Friday night hold on I am mixing up my thoughts.
Ugh ok well Jessie jury management is not lying to me then telling me you have "mad respect" for me 30 seconds after tribal is posted, but maybe that works on some people and you thought it would work on me. Kim J who you are sitting next to kindly told me she was unable to help me and was very upfront. She's like a fucking sleeper cell agent for still being here but I knew how she spoke to me in the time I was with her she was going to go quite far. Altho after reading she shared DOG PHOTOS with NOT ME I am now in a whirlwind of emotions again as I am the king of dogs, I've rescued three and just ugh Kim J why!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fuck ok I need to focus. My questions are the following and the same for both of you:
Jessie: Tell me three wonderful things you liked about me as a person and/or as a player, and choose a number 1-75
Kim: Tell me three wonderful things you liked about me as a person and/or as a player, and choose a number 87-114
Thank you both for your time and congrats on being final two, I am still currently undecided so it's still anyone's game for my vote.
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Post by Clarence Black on Nov 26, 2020 0:39:24 GMT -5
Congrats to the both of you for making it to the end. Regardless of however you got here, I still think it's a great achievement, and even though we're sitting here judging you for how you got there, the point is... we couldn't, so kudos to the both of you. đđđ
I'll be frank right now - I'm currently on the fence, but leaning more towards Jessie, because even though she blindsided me, I still gotta give them the social game aspect that they had with me (and other players I didn't know about). So, my question(s) are more for Kim, and forgive me if you've answered this already, but why should I vote for you over Jessie? Also, from my trio with Lex and Jessie, I'd say that each of us had our moments of strategy and leading the charge on certain decisions. Were there any big moves you made that you led the charge on, that weren't proposed by someone else?
Congrats again to the both of you - and thanks everyone for a great game!
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Post by Teresa Cooper on Nov 26, 2020 8:18:23 GMT -5
Congrats Kim and Jessie! you have both played so well and have really put your all into this game. I had so much fun and you two were such great opponents and team mates. Everyone else has asked such great questions, that I really don't have one myself. Congrats Ladies and best of luck!
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Post by Jessie Camacho on Nov 26, 2020 9:27:03 GMT -5
KELLY! Black Widow Brigade! Top Four! My girl you were a huge competitor in this game, challenge threat or not! I had a gut feeling you would have the jury behind you for a while, which is why you are not sitting here so shout out to your game!
I made it to the final two by winning crucial immunities, taking risks at the right time and by playing a very social game and made genuine connections. I didnât have puppy pics, I had votes against me (shout out Linda for recognizing me as a threat by asking me how I slept) and I was successfully strategic while not being quiet. All things that also make me sitting here more difficult with the jury but I am so fortunate to have been playing with such an amazing group. I am glad I got to know everyone and made the connections I did. This game is to outwit and outlast and I sitting here tonight I feel I did just that.
xoxoxo
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Post by Kim Powers on Nov 26, 2020 10:04:51 GMT -5
Hi Ladies!! Congrats on securing a seat in the final 2! You two played such an amazing game, and I am so honoured that I got to be a part of the final 3 with you two  I have a couple quick questions for you guys to secure my final vote. Kim J: Was every move that you made the entire game strategic? Or did things happen in the game that worked out in your favour? Jessie: Did you and Kim J have an alliance from the very beginning? If so, why did you feel that this alliance was the one to stick with until the end? If not, which key moves do you believe got you to sit in the Final 2? For the both of you: Why should I vote for YOU to be the last standing survivor? Best of luck to both of you <3 |
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Post by Kim Johnson on Nov 26, 2020 10:40:14 GMT -5
Hey Lex! I really enjoyed playing with you as well. Iâm actually kind of glad you saw it that way, because I tried to frame the strategic conversations to make it appear like I wasnât overthinking strategy all of the time. After the merge, once the game became more strategic, every single person left in the order I had hoped. I would message the black widows with a general âhow is every one feeling about the voteâ but already had my target chosen. No one ever wanted to be the first to throw out a name, and that included me. I would feel it out first so I wasnât coming off too strong, plus you never know who someone is working with on the side (Which I was definitely always watching out for from you). I also wanted to make everyone feel like the target was their idea. I had each personâs exit order planned in my mind before the merge happened, all slightly flexible depending on immunities of course. Donât for a second think the wheels werenât turning in my head. I didnât want to appear as a threat who was playing too hard, and based on your comment Iâd say that was a success.
Well, if I donât win then I probably shouldnât have chosen Jessie to sit beside me haha. But I wanted to honour my alliance (I only made a final 2 with one person), and show that I can have loyalty and compete against the best despite my stealthier gameplay. One other mistake that I made, when the all important voting Lex out day happened, I had a bunch of personal stuff booked and wasnât able to be messaging people like I needed to be. So it almost blew up (thanks for that đ) and I regret not being more on top of my communications that day. But in the final seconds I stuck to my gut to vote you out, despite last minute other options being thrown at me and Jessie wavering on our plan, and I am so glad that I did. It was the right opportunity to make the move against you, otherwise you stood a very high chance of winning this game.
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Post by Jessie Camacho on Nov 26, 2020 11:05:34 GMT -5
Lex how did you know people refer to my laugh as a hyena, so intouch. My hats off to your game but you already know that. I NEVER imagined I would come into this game and meet a true soulmate. After you were voted out I would just see you online and cry to Jeff. Hyena mush aside, thank you for the kind words. I discussed you being a threat who would need to go with Kim but when Kelly quickly showed that she could get Teresa and Kim* behind her I knew that Kelly was a threat that needed to go because she could do the same to me in the next vote (which we discussed). So I forced the tie and showed my loyalty to you because ...you are number one. Risk my own game in order to keep my number one? Yes. I hated not being truthful with people I respected but I wouldnât change my game because it got me to the end. I wish I could have gone further with certain people and inturn ruffled a few less feathers along the way but it was never personal, it is all in the spirit of the game. I trust the jury can respect the game of Survivor. P.s. hi |
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Post by Kim Johnson on Nov 26, 2020 11:11:44 GMT -5
Hey Brandon! Wow I really messed up not sending dog pics your way haha maybe next time! I appreciate you bringing up our post merge conversation. You and Linda made me an offer to swap and work with Samburu, but the reason I didnât take it was because I knew I had better than final 5/final 4 with Boran if everything worked out the way I planned for it to. I felt I had a solid shot at final 3 (unless shit hit the fan, which I was mentally prepared for every day) so it wasnât the right time for me to make that kind of move and become enemy #1 for so many people â which is what I told you honestly that week.
Three wonderful things about Brandon:
1. Youâre dedicated to your work in healthcare, picking up extra shifts in the ER on weekends so you worked crazy hours that sounded exhausting!
2. Youâre very dedicated to the game and challenges! You forgot to screen cap that ~363 score in the archery challenge and worked for hours to try to beat it. (God I hated that challenge!)
3. Honest social game â it was nice to just speak upfront to each other about voting rather than lying/beating around the bush. I think you always appreciated my honesty and I yours.
4. Bonus â you rescued 3 pups!?! I just rescued my one, which requires a lot of work on its own so good for you!!
A number between 87-114: 101 (hopefully thatâs a good choice đ)
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